Lets make a list

"bob and john" (bobandjohn) 02/12/2016 at 10:59 • Filed to: None

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Of all the motors that made 100hp/L OR MORE.

N/A

No bike motors. or race motors

A lot of older honda motors. (B18, K20, the motors in the S2000(s))
Audis 4.2L V8,
BMW’s 4.0L V8 in the E90 M3,
the 5.2 in the mustang GT350.
The V12 in the F1
the S54 in the M3
S85 in the E60 M5
Nissan SR motors with varible timing
ferraris V8s made over 100hp/l since the F355
toyota 2ZZ-GE
toyota 1LR-GUE (lfa motor)
aston martins vulcan
Mazda renisis engine (RX-8 motor)
the toybaru FA-20
Lamborgini’s V12 in the aventador.
Ferraris V12 in the F12
the 3.8L in the porsche GT3
porsches 3.6 and the 4.0L as well.
Audi/lambos 5.2L V10

what else?

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:02

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The Euro E36 M3 motor and the McLaren F1 BMW V12

Diesel > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:03

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S2000 made 240 hp with 2 liters.

KnowsAboutCars > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:04

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Nissan SR engines with variable valve timing aka SR16VE (N1) and late model SR20VE.

GTRZILLAR32-Now saving for Godzilla and a condo > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:05

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The S54 in the E46 M3/CSL

Ash78, voting early and often > Diesel 02/12/2016 at 11:06

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I wonder if OP included that in “a lot of old Honda motors” — I consider that a “new” Honda motor, but I’m old...

That’s the most quintessential mass market answer to this question.

Van Man, rocks the Man Van > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:07

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Ferrari 458 Speciale holds the record I believe. 597hp from a NA 4.5L V8 (hence the name), which comes out to about 133 hp/L. I think that’s currently a record for naturally aspirated production cars.

Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:07

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S85 a la E60 M5. Comes in at exactly 100/L

bob and john > Ash78, voting early and often 02/12/2016 at 11:07

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thats in ‘old’ honda motors.
they current dont have anything N’A over 100hp/l in the NA market. sad

Diesel > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:10

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I didn't read that far down lol.

Thunderface > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:11

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The GT350/GT350R is a 5.2, not a 5.0

It still counts either way though, as it has 526hp.

bob and john > Thunderface 02/12/2016 at 11:11

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yea, that was my mistake

FromCanadaWithLove > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:14

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The Aston Martin Vulcan makes 800hp from a 7.0L V12.

BMW M2's N55 makes 365hp from a 3.0L I6

Thunderface > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:14

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Not even that much of a mistake, considering the 5.2 is just a 5.0 with heads+ other mods. Idk if its bored or stroked though.

dogisbadob > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:15

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The LFA’s V10 is 4.8L and makes 580 hp

Future next gen S2000 owner > Thunderface 02/12/2016 at 11:15

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Not really. It has quite a few changes. Flat plane vs. cross plane is a pretty significant one.

Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) > Thunderface 02/12/2016 at 11:16

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I thought it is a completely unique engine. Isn’t the coyote cross place while the 350 is a flat plane?

Edit: Did some research. the Voodoo is a heavily modified coyote.

bob and john > FromCanadaWithLove 02/12/2016 at 11:16

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the BMW motor is boosted

6cyl > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:16

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Lexus LFA. 4.8 v10 with over 500hp

FromCanadaWithLove > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:17

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Oh, sorry missed the N/A part. Vulcan still applies.

dogisbadob > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 02/12/2016 at 11:18

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that ad is funny because Honda beat them by like 5 years :p

6cyl > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:21

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Mazda RX8 13b-rew

Sweet Trav > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:22

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HP / L is a pointless statistic for an engine. HP density is the most important metric. (How powerful is an engine for its weight and external volume)

Jarrett - [BRZ Boi] > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:22

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Has the brz/FRS motor been mentioned (FA-20?)

2.0L, 200hp

Sweet Trav > Thunderface 02/12/2016 at 11:22

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Bore and stroke are different.

EL_ULY > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:25

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I know it’s a race engine but dayum. 3.5L V8 making 675hp from Chevrolet Indycar.

bob and john > Sweet Trav 02/12/2016 at 11:25

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i’m just curious.

Sweet Trav > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:27

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Fair enough, but saying one engine makes more HP/L than another and it is better because of that is not a valid argument

bob and john > Sweet Trav 02/12/2016 at 11:28

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I know. I was just thinking that bike motors hit 200hp/L N/A. wondering whats the closest production car engine.

Svend > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:28

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Skoda Superb, 1.4TSi ACT = 148hp

Skoda Octavia, 2.0TSi = 280hp

They probably aren’t what you were wanting though. Lol.

bob and john > Svend 02/12/2016 at 11:29

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N/A

vondon302 > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:29

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Ford flat plane 5.2 voodoo motor in the gt350 and r. 526 hp

Party-vi > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:29

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The 4.9L F12 engine in the Ferrari Berlinetta Boxer makes 513bhp.

bob and john > vondon302 02/12/2016 at 11:31

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already up there

Brian, The Life of > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:31

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Ford EcoBoost 1.0L! 125hp :)

Sweet Trav > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:31

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bob and john > Brian, The Life of 02/12/2016 at 11:32

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n/a list

Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:33

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The 3.8 in the GT3, which also has the record for specific torque, I think.

vondon302 > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:33

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Oops and the eco boost 1.0 too.

bob and john > Sweet Trav 02/12/2016 at 11:33

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yea, but where is the fun in that!

Thunderface > Future next gen S2000 owner 02/12/2016 at 11:34

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I know, I was just thinking of this that directly affected the displacement

bob and john > vondon302 02/12/2016 at 11:35

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N/A motors

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:35

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I prefer these photos:

Brian, The Life of > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:35

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I need more coffee :(

MultiplaOrgasms > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:36

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Mitsubishi 6A12 MIVEC (barely, but only in metric hp)

Toyota 4A-GE 20V Blacktop

Renault F4R

S62B50daily > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:36

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I don’t think it’s fair to put a Wankel engine in the list

bob and john > Brian, The Life of 02/12/2016 at 11:36

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it happens :P

vondon302 > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:37

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Damn I’m 2 for 2. I’m out.

bob and john > S62B50daily 02/12/2016 at 11:37

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it was offered in a production car, why not?

S62B50daily > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:41

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beacuse it’s a totally different design. I guess that it still qualifies for your requirements, but so do the FB and FC RX-7

6cyl > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:44

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Scratch that

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:45

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2.0L ecoboost from the ST?

Svend > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:45

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Guessing ‘N/A’ mean North American then.

6cyl > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:48

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http://www.motortrend.com/news/the-15-mo…

Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:48

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We should throw in the old 900+HP F1 3.0L V-10s just for shits.

TrustMeImAnEngineer, but I'd rather be an InternationalArtThief > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:52

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The 4.6L V8 in the 918 - 608hp (yes, that’s without including the electric motors)

The 997 GT3 Rs 4.0 - 500hp

MultiplaOrgasms > Brian, The Life of 02/12/2016 at 11:53

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Lol Daihatsu JC-DET 713cc, 120hp in 1998

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 11:53

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Final generation 4AGE put out 158 hp from 1587 cc. Close enough for rock and roll!

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Sweet Trav 02/12/2016 at 11:54

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Not necessarily. High output NA motors tend to be high strung and rev high, which is a subjective thing that some people really, really like.

MultiplaOrgasms > Sweet Trav 02/12/2016 at 11:55

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Admit it you’re just pissed that Smallblock Chevys have absolutely awful specific outputs.

DoYouEvenShift > Sweet Trav 02/12/2016 at 11:55

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HP per valve is where its at lol

bob and john > Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) 02/12/2016 at 12:00

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it also says no race engines.

bob and john > Svend 02/12/2016 at 12:00

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naturally aspirated

Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 12:01

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“just for shits”

DoYouEvenShift > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 02/12/2016 at 12:02

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Holy shit thats a lot of moving parts. And thats with the cam drive still in one piece.

bob and john > MultiplaOrgasms 02/12/2016 at 12:02

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N/A...naturally aspirated

bob and john > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 02/12/2016 at 12:04

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N/A dude....naturally aspirated

MultiplaOrgasms > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 12:05

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Wasn’t a suggestion. My entries are somewhere else.

bob and john > MultiplaOrgasms 02/12/2016 at 12:06

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ah. my bad

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > DoYouEvenShift 02/12/2016 at 12:16

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Yup, but boy, does it sing at eight thousand RPM!

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 12:25

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sorry

jjhats > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 12:38

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you mentioned older Hondas but I feel like the beat might have been one of the very first cars ever to hit your mark. 63 hp from a 656 cc engine in 1991. please don’t disqualify me over 2 hp

jjhats > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 12:39

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its pretty sad you have to comment this so many times. idk why people cant read/don’t understand why its not impressive to hip 100 hp/L with forced induction. is their a turbo car on the market that doesn’t not make 100 hp/L.....?

bob and john > jjhats 02/12/2016 at 12:41

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i still think its kinda meh even for N/A

i’m used to bike motors. a S1000RR makes 200hp/l

jjhats > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 12:45

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ok so you researched this topic picked every possible answer then posed this question to shoot down everyone else. you didn’t miss any in the header idk why you made this thread. the beat is a car. it isn’t a race car or sport bike and is NA. I think it stands to reason that its the first car to hit your achievement and you forgot about it. the argument that small engines can make huge power at high revs is true for bikes but not necessarily cars. the other kei sports car used turbos to make the same power from a 3 banger

Svend > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 12:47

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Okay. That makes a little more sense. I was shooting for either ‘North American’ or ‘Non Applicable’.

;)

bob and john > jjhats 02/12/2016 at 12:47

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but it doesnt make 100hp/l. its 96hp/l

jjhats > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 12:51

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whatever dude have fun trashing the other comments.

bob and john > jjhats 02/12/2016 at 12:52

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you know, I was going to let the beat slide in. but seeing as your being a jerk, i wont.

bai nao

jjhats > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 12:53

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I don’t give a shit about your list. you forgot one of the coolest cars of all time and im not telling you what it is :)

miadaman? yes please > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 13:27

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Does the technicality of H22A being 2,157cc while making 217HP count?

bob and john > miadaman? yes please 02/12/2016 at 13:45

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with 217HP, anythiong over 2170 would have brought it out.

so it still counts

miadaman? yes please > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 13:50

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Hurray

Sully > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 14:00

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Audi’s 2.2 liter 20v turbo AAN engines...in 1992. 230 HP/258 TQ edit: Missed the NA only caveat.

ger-toshav > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 14:25

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4A-GE 20v Black Top

Bytemite > Sweet Trav 02/12/2016 at 14:50

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They are both useful measurements actually.

Horsepower-to-engine weight is important for when you want to maximize peformance by keeping weight and size down and balance F/R weight distribution. Horsepower-per-liter is also important to measure how efficiently you are producing that power. Of course displacement isn’t the only thing that affects power-to-fuel per sec or min ratio, but all things equal, higher displacement to produce same hp as an engine with less displacement will take more fuel and is inefficient power. And efficient power is what we should be striving for, whether that is efficiency through weight and size or efficiency through displacement. There would really be no progress in engines if both of these factors weren’t considered. So...they are both important.

Rick Cavaretti > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 15:26

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Because the calculated working displacement isn’t the same as in a reciprocating ICE with a crank/rod/piston set up.

Sweet Trav > MultiplaOrgasms 02/12/2016 at 15:52

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No, HP/L is an almost entirely pointless metric.

You could take the exact same engine, one with a cast iron block, and the other with a cast aluminum block, and in a race, the vehicle with an iron block would lose.

Also displacement vs external volume, the Aston V12 is a 6l motor that is a lot bigger physically than a 6.0l LS2, If both engines make the same amount of power and torque, but the LS motor is shorter and lower (due to overhead valves) it’s center of mass is further back in the chassis (assuming the same tranmission location) and lower down in the vehicle, aiding in cornering, stability and balance.

Mean effective pressure is a far better metric for measuring specific output anyhow because it is not dependent on displacement. (comparing efficiency of two designs)

Sweet Trav > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 02/12/2016 at 15:54

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High output motors high strung? Apparently you've never driven a built Pontiac or Olds V8. All the power and torque you've ever wanted for a Bias Ply tire below 5000 rpm.

6cyl > bob and john 02/12/2016 at 17:17

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Arial Atom v8. 3.0L and 500hp and 10,600rpm redline. You can register it for the street so i say it counts

6cyl > bob and john 02/13/2016 at 09:40

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BMW e36 m3 - S50b32 - 3,201cc -321hp

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Sweet Trav 02/15/2016 at 07:44

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Not really high output ;)

Sweet Trav > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 02/15/2016 at 09:27

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510 ft/lbs of torque was a record for production cars that was held for 33 years until the Viper made more in 2003, better yet it made 510 Ft/lbs at very low 2800 RPM, Horsepower was purposefully under-rated at 360 @ 4200 rpm. This engine also powered the GSX Stage 1 to be “fastest” factory muscle car in the 60's and 70's with a time in the low 13's on bias ply factory tires.

Certainly a high output motor.